False love & Universalism

Mark Finger wrote:  

…and those who profess the false love doctrine (tolerate everything and play the political correctness game instead of honoring the words of the Living God) are not only paving the way for a universalist agenda and an ecumenical, one world religion, they are impacting the minds of repentant Christians whose minds need to be renewed to the word of God.

15 Responses to “False love & Universalism”

  1. Gillian Says:

    True. They hold onto the world’s version of love, so it only applies when you are in obedience to them (not God and His Word) and don’t give them any flack. When you cause a controversy by telling the truth as laid out in scripture – their true colors come to the fore and their love is nowhere to be seen. It seems their love only applies when you’re in full agreement with their error(s).

    Seems they get “rid” of the “pesky christians” rather subtly and silently for now.

  2. ianvincent Says:

    Does anyone have anything more to say on how Universalism is spreading today WITHIN Christian circles, where you wouldn’t expect it to arise?

    It is the most insidious of deceptions i’ve seen yet, bcos it twists the meaning of the Cross, atonement, and the love of God.

    But, anything that denies Jesus’ plain words is to spit in His face and mock Him all over again, to call Him a fool.

    ian.

  3. Jamie Says:

    Yeah, a type of universalism would have to be the basis for a one world religion, where all ‘gods’ lead to the same place and nobody has a claim on ‘The absolute Truth’. I sure can agree it’s all heading that way.

  4. ianvincent Says:

    The thing about Universal Reconciliation is that it accommodates all on a false understanding of Christ’s atonement : refusing to believe that His reconciliation is conditional upon true faith, which results in repentance.

    The reconciliation must be received, now, otherwise, that same Blood that was shed on the cross for their pardon, CONDEMNS the person eternally, for they are guilty of His Blood.

    They look at the verses that say “for all” and “all will be reconciled” BUT ignore how that final condition is achieved, and that’s by the removal of all that offends from the Kingdom, the destruction and removal of all of Christ’s enemies – – they totally ignore that. Christ’s enemies (the majority) will never be reconciled to Him, the will suffer the vengeance of eternal fire.

    Universal Reconciliation is the sort of false “gospel” which could NEARLY deceive the elect, if it were possible.

    Matt. 24:24. Just combine it with lying signs and wonders, and then it’s a done deal.

    ian.

  5. ianvincent Says:

    Add to the mix the promise of temporal power, the same way that satan offered to give our Lord Jesus “the world” if He would bow down and worship him. Nothings changed today in institutional Christianity, the same offer is made and most fall for it, not realizing that to reject Jesus’ way (commands) IS to worship satan, by default.

    ian.

  6. ianvincent Says:

    ……….and, the temporal power that UR gives works at every level : from the highfalutin ecclesiastical fancy-dress level, right down to the “house church” level. At the grass roots level the “power” of UR is the power to become everyone’s friend (no inconvenient truth about sin to get in the way and spoil the relationships).

    ian.

  7. Jamie Says:

    This is what i’ve been calling humanism al along, but another ‘religious’ name for it is universalism, they are the same thing. I feel like a broken record I talk about this stuff so much …but it’s because I agree with what you’ve said here..

    “”Universal Reconciliation is the sort of false “gospel” which could NEARLY deceive the elect, if it were possible.

    Matt. 24:24. Just combine it with lying signs and wonders, and then it’s a done deal.””

    These are the ones who by killing you (or those who are truly born of the Spirit of God) will think they do God a favor. The hatred and persecution is already there for those who refuse to compromise- for those who aren’t of their antichrist spirit.
    If forums have taught us anything it should be that.

  8. ianvincent Says:

    Jamie wrote: “This is what i’ve been calling humanism all along, but another ‘religious’ name for it is universalism, they are the same thing.”

    I wrote the exact same thing to Mark yesterday, how bout that!

    ian.

  9. ianvincent Says:

    Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels has He ever said:

    “Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet”?

    1Cor 15:25 For He must reign till He puts all His enemies under His feet.

  10. Gillian Says:

    Universalism and ecumenism go hand in hand.

    Apostasy has infiltrated the Body of Christ to such a degree that most Christians today haven’t been shown/taught/preached the true Gospel, but instead an insiduous form of religious humanism – easy belivism – the wide road.

    Many believe that all of humanity are all sons and daughters of God. They believe in a warped gospel and still according to the world’s standards. But the Bible tells us when the world views us favourably, it’s because we’re still part of them.

  11. Gillian Says:

    Sorry – the above should read :

    “…….. still live according to the world’s standards…..”

  12. ianvincent Says:

    This site has a lot of info on dominionism:

    http://herescope.blogspot.com/2008/01/seven-spheres-of-influence.html

  13. Mark Finger Says:

    Jamie wrote: “These are the ones who by killing you (or those who are truly born of the Spirit of God) will think they do God a favor. The hatred and persecution is already there for those who refuse to compromise- for those who aren’t of their antichrist spirit. If forums have taught us anything it should be that.”

    Bingo.

    Reminds of a certain ‘Trailblazer’ (blazing his own trail) whose hatred for Ian was expressed in the awful glee he had in saying, “I can’t wait until you burn in hell,” (or something very close to that).

    I have never known one, God-fearing Christian who would say such a thing.

  14. Gillian Says:

    “Reminds of a certain ‘Trailblazer’ (blazing his own trail) whose hatred for Ian was expressed in the awful glee he had in saying, “I can’t wait until you burn in hell,” (or something very close to that).”

    Yeesh – unbelievable. I think this is what all (true) Bible believing Christians are to expect. Especially in lieu of the fact that most well-known and influential “christians” are Universalists – George Bush is one, Robert Schuller another, not to mention Billy Graham, and then there’s Rick Warren – the list goes on and on.

  15. ianvincent Says:

    Yes, persecution is on the way, again ; it’s come in waves over the church age and the next wave is on the way. BUT, there’s not many left to persecute, that is, Christians who have the testimony of Jesus. Universalists aren’t gonna get persecuted, they are the persecutors.

    Universalists, like the one’s Gillian mentions here, can sound pretty convincing that they are real Christians by their “official” creed, yet then they go and make statements that totally deny the Lord Jesus. A real Christian would never deny Him, no matter what it costs them personally.

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