Some questions on healing



But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.


1 Corinthians 12:7-11


How do you know whether you have the gift of healing? Because when you pray for the sick the Lord heals them.


How do you know whether you have the gift of working miracles? Because miracles happen in your life.


How do you know whether you have the gift of prophecy? Because the Holy Spirit often speaks a Christ-exalting word through you.


How do you know whether you have the gift of tongues/languages? Because you sometimes pray in an unknown language.


And so on.


Now, I’m working through a thought, will make some notes here:


In my book I have a chapter as to why healing is not in the Atonement.


Healing can flow from the Atonement for our sin, physically, mentally and emotionally.


But if Christ died for your sickness, then you would never physically die.


Your body would just keep going, it would never cease to function.


As well, if Christ died for your sickness, why did He give a special gift of healing to some, and not all? Why is the allocation of that gift of healing “as He wills”? That is, why does He choose to give that gift to some and not all, if healing is in the Atonement?

4 Responses to “Some questions on healing”

  1. ian vincent Says:

    A fundamental reason why healing is not in the Atonement is that Christ died to pay for our sins.

    He was paying a debt that wasn’t His.

    He was paying our debt.

    By “paying” we mean fulfilling the requirement of the Law by experiencing death or separation from God on our behalf.

    Jesus could not be punished for our sickness.

    Sickness is not sin.

    Sickness is a product of the fall.

    So, no, Jesus did not die to pay for your sickness, He died to pay for your sins.

    Therefore, healing is one benefit possible because Jesus has destroyed sins power.

    Jesus healed multitudes before He made the Atonement.

    They were not healed on the basis of the Atonement, but simply by His mercy.

  2. ian vincent Says:

    The issue for believing that healing is in the Atonement is that, if that is so, then, as a partaker of Christ’s atonement, if you ever get a cold, it means you are against God’s will, and lack faith, just the same as if you sinned, and, subsequently, you would be living under condemnation that your faith is deficient.

  3. ian vincent Says:

    As I said, I was responding to a sermon by Bill Johnson.

    The issue was concerning people making healing the dominant message of a church, so much so that there’s even no scriptural gospel preached, healing has displaced it, and the quest for physical signs displacing real faith.

    I’m not a Cessasionist and I’ve seen a lot of healing.

  4. ian vincent Says:

    Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

    James 5:14-15

    And in that day you will ask Me nothing. Most assuredly, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name He will give you. 24 Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.

    John 16:23-24

    22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

    1 John 3:22

    Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15 And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

    1 John 5:14-15

    And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.”

    Matthew 21:22

    Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.

    Mark 11:24

    Soooo….. There’s no mention here or anywhere that believing that Jesus died for our sicknesses is necessary for God to heal you.

    But believing that Jesus died for your sin is essential to be saved.

    The issue for receiving healing is to ask in faith.

    God’s word promises that if we believe Christ took away our sins on the cross, then we are faultless and guiltlless before Him.

    But God’s word does not promise you will never die, or be affected by aging.

    There’s no promise that you’ll never be sick.

    And there’s no teaching in the Bible that if you do get sick it must be because you don’t have enough Faith.

    And yet healing and wholeness is a glorious provision.

    There’s no evidence Jesus was ever sick.

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