Reducing God and magnifying man

is the essence of the spirit of error. This lie is put to death at the Cross of Calvary.

6 Responses to “Reducing God and magnifying man”

  1. ian vincent Says:

    Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    Gal 6:12 As many as desire to make a fair show in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.

    Col 2:23 Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in self-imposed worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any value to the indulgence of the flesh.

  2. ruthsongs Says:

    I was thinking the other day about the emphasis in my CLB about our “destinies” and “developing our gifts,” as if this is what we should be concentrating on. It leads to so much subtle error. It shifts the focus to me, me, me and it get us thinking the gifts belong to us. So then this leads to operating in gifts on our own, without the leading of the Holy Spirit and somewhere in that process we can fall into fleshly activities disguised as gifts of the Spirit…..and that can lead into full blown error far, far from the Lord.

    I ask myself when did the Apostle Paul go around thinking about “developing” his gifts? or reaching for some grand destiny? (Which in his case was prison and death as far as the world could see.)

    I think he just tried to do the next thing He felt the Lord telling him to do.

  3. ian vincent Says:

    You’ve nailed this one, Ruth. You got it : The subtle shift to it being all about “me”. So subtle that it superficially appears to be about Jesus, but it’s not.

    One of the top gurus of the House Church movement regularly emphatically states that it has to be about Christ alone, yet, it’s still all about him, and buying his books. In this case he’s using the most obvious truth, Christ alone, as a foil to hide behind.

    What is a CLB?

  4. ian vincent Says:

    Reducing God and magnifying man….

    This is the natural tendency.

    Oh that we would be a people who “defy nature”, the laws of nature, of the flesh, unto a place where Reducing God and magnifying man becomes so apparently absurd.

    Absurd is a very polite word for it.

  5. ruthsongs Says:

    CLB = “church left behind” I don’t know where it originated… lingo.

    It’s scary to me to know how I was on that road of “learning” prophecy. Since I have left charismania there have been a few times when I have truly heard the Lord tell me something that was going to happen. Just things in my own life, and they came to pass just like He said.

    Guess what? He does not sound like me. That was one of the things I was taught. That God talks to us in a voice that sounds like us, cuz see, He’s just trying to communicate, ya know.

    The other thing I was taught was that “God is always talking.” (A twisting of Christ ever living to make intercession) So you just have to learn how to tune in. So, once you get good at this you can ‘get a word’ whenever you want. The gift is now yours to use when you want (oh they don’t actually say that, but that is what is modeled, …er…. if the ‘atmosphere’ is right) Just tune in.

    My heart rate goes up just typing that. There is no fear of the Lord in that way of doing things, and we are magnified, God is reduced.

    I am so sorry for all the times I ‘prophesied’ using these techniques.

  6. ian vincent Says:

    There is no fear of the Lord in that way of doing things, and we are magnified, God is reduced.

    Thanks for sharing that Ruth. Exactly.

    God in a box. Reduced, Systematized, Bottled and Packaged and then commercialized. It started some time during the 2nd century. There’s always enough punters out there to keep that system flush with cash.

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